Discussion on Maura's case

hydemi · Joined: 18 Jan 2005 Posts: 114 Location: winchester, mass.

the list of articles is very helpful--so much time has passed--and I see one or two that either I never saw or have long since forgotten and I believe I have followed pretty closely the last two years.

Does anyone have available for re-posting on the site the Seventeen magazine article from June 2004 based on an interview with Lt Rausch, in which he provides the email to him from Maura on Monday afternoon the day of her disappearance (the email is quoted verbatim here on Case Info)?
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Paris · Joined: 05 Feb 2006 Posts: 134 Location: Minnesota

I don't have that but I do have this:

Mon, 09 Feb 2004 13:00:06 –0500 Maura sent email to Billy
Subject: hey hey
To: "Bill Rausch"

I love you more stud I got your messages, but honestly, i didn't
feel like talking to much of anyone, i promise to call today though
love you
maura
2/9 2:18 P M Maura called Billy 1 minute call
At some point, Maura either downloaded or picked up an accident form at the RMV
In the last email sent to Billy, as noted in Part II, Maura is referring to messages that Billy had left for her the day before. She had been away from the phone, so she did not get those messages on that day.

Sharon explains the events surrounding the broken promises: “It has been 18 months, and yet we still have no clue why Maura chose to take a week off of school, drive a car that she knew was not mechanically sound and head to NH. We do know that she attempted to call my son Billy the afternoon of her missing. Because she could not reach him, she emailed him. She made no mention of the trip, (of course we think this would be like her - she would not want him worried about her traveling alone in a car with mechanical problems) There were two calls made on her cell phone before she left UMass that confirm that she was attempting to find a room in the VT/NH area.

On Sunday, she also had promised to call her father the evening of her missing. We believe that she had every intention to follow through on this promise because duplicate copies of insurance forms were found in her car. The scheduled phone call with her father was for him to assist her. She had to have either picked them up from the Hadley MA police station (regarding an auto accident she had on Sat 2/7/04) or down loaded them online. It is not unusual that she did not attempt to call Fred at work and tell him of her plans. He is a nuclear medicine technician and can take neither personal calls at work, nor cell phone calls. Maura's broken promises to her Dad and to Billy lead me to believe that Maura has been harmed.”
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Paris · Joined: 05 Feb 2006 Posts: 134 Location: Minnesota

**Just found this written by Maura herself.........

Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 19:19:48 -0400
From: Laurie Murray

Hi there,

My name is Maura Murray from Hanson MA and I've been going to
Jigger Johnson's campground, which is clearly the best, and hiking in
the White Mountains ever since I was too young to remember. I would
like to know if anyone out there has ever climbed Mt. Tripyramid (the
trail starts at Sabaday Falls) because I had quite an experience. I
also want to help out at the huts during the summer or manage trails
if there are any available jobs that someone knows about. Does anybody
have any bear or moose stories to tell because I would love to hear
them. Great website-bye
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Paris · Joined: 05 Feb 2006 Posts: 134 Location: Minnesota

I hope this works and you can click on the links. I found this to be very interesting
Home
Mountain Week- Not Without Peril
Reported by John Walters on Thursday, July 24, 2003.
listen:
Mountain Week continues with a look at the beauty and danger of the White Mountains. Nicholas Howe is a lifelong resident of the White Mountain region, a dedicated hiker, and author of Not Without Peril, a book that chronicles some of the tragedies, near-misses and rescues that have taken place over the years in the Northern Presidentials.
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Paris · Joined: 05 Feb 2006 Posts: 134 Location: Minnesota

http://www.nhpr.org/node/4987 (------- There's the link

Then click on: Listen to windows media
They talk all about the book, Not without Peril
Reported by John Walters on Thursday, July 24, 2003.
This is NH radio, ~ The front porch show...
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Susan · Joined: 08 Nov 2004 Posts: 71 Location: Massachusetts

Moderator - THANK YOU for checking the forum and taking off
the weird posters and postings!!!

Susan

Citigirl · Joined: 28 Nov 2004 Posts: 150 Location: Massachusetts

Susan- My own personal believe has always been that it is not a good idea to post where or when or what areas have been searched for several reasons. 1) You don't want to give the person or persons involved in Maura's disappearence the opportunity to remove any possible evidence that might be out there. 2) you have to keep in mind the safety of all that are involved in the search for Maura by not drawing any unwanted attention towards anyone of the searchers. 3) because an area has been searched does not mean it won't be researched again.

Shack · Joined: 19 Jun 2005 Posts: 295

My thoughts to Susan and Citigirl about "searches"....

...the Dru Sjodin case out in North Dakota? She
was found because of the persistence of a group of
people who conducted searches on a regular basis. They
used quite a few bloodhounds to help ....

Evidently those ND town folks gave a rodents rump, as apposed to the town folks up North...remember Mrs. W....?
AND, one would have to have landowners permission...?
Most of the land up here is measured in acres..not builder's lots.
The law doesn't work in the favor of a victim and family, in this case.

Silly thought...don't care....have it advertised in the area Town's that there will be a week of search from Monday...to....Friday
and that if any land owner objects, to notify..in writing..blah blah...hmm...yeh right...! See all the pins in that area of a map.!!

Lesley/Paris very interesting readings. Pike...you too...(wink)

ps if anyone PM'd me ..I have been between here and there with
2 old laptops....

Anyone else having problems tonight posting..? I was logged in and it kept telling me I had the wrong password...but, I was here logged trying to "reply"....

kr · Joined: 07 Apr 2006 Posts: 30

bobfather99 · Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Posts: 114 Location: NW Indiana

kr · Joined: 07 Apr 2006 Posts: 30

From todays Caledonian Record

It may be Mr. Sypek.

http://www.caledonianrecord.com/pages/local_news/story/c6aadcace

mpssg · Joined: 19 Mar 2006 Posts: 12

waiting dental ID before they release the name. Heard from the individual who found the remains. I guess it was a pretty intact camp site.

Citigirl · Joined: 28 Nov 2004 Posts: 150 Location: Massachusetts

kr I'am not referring to a search party. Some of us family members and friends have been searching for Maura since the beginning. When I stated my opinion with my own personal beliefs on searches I was speaking for myself as to my own thoughts and reasonings.

Shack · Joined: 19 Jun 2005 Posts: 295

Citigirl...high five....what you said...plus my own thoughts.....;-\

peripeteia · Joined: 21 Oct 2005 Posts: 140 Location: Nova Scotia

Greetings to the new posters....

thinking out loud!

Have been chewing and stewing about the information regarding the towel in the tailpipe....I think that it is necessary to recreate the towel in the tailpipe, to see whether this would have stalled the car, and secondly when this was done to check the condition of the towel....

The first thing that comes to mind is that the perp used a cloth, and once Maura was abducted was to take a towel from Maura's bag remove the old cloth and replace it with a new one..

Although fingerprints cannot be taken from a rough surface like a towel, DNA can be gleaned.....although this in inself might not tell us who placed the towel there, as Maura's DNA would be already on the towel most likely, and if the perp was wearing gloves then it is unlikely that anyone other DNA would be there....

What it appears is that the perp likely placed something in the tailpipe at a gas station near by, where ever Maura stopped for gas, because the tank is almost full, and the need for gas is what likely took Maura off the main highway to begin with.....my guess is if this was not the case to make the car stall, then the clean towel might have been placed to make it look like Maura was attempting suicide....

Now of course it is possible that Maura stuck it there, but when.....the school bus driver, left to go home after offering Maura some help, and was refused....where was Maura when he left.....we know that she was outside her car as indicated by Faith Westman......did Maura remain outside her car? Maura is outside her car....she is not seen after the school bus driver left.....so surely the school bus driver either noticed the towel when he was there, and if not it is unlikely Maura put it there after he left, as she was not seen thereafter....curious.....

Also our witness who has not been identified, states Maura was not seen after the school bus driver departed, and this person saw no car stop, did this witness see Maura get out of her car and place the towel there? Had Maura done this prior to the school bus driver coming along?

I cannot see when Maura had time to do this if the towel was not there when the school bus driver stopped.....and if her car would start later by the family, had the towel then been removed?

It seems very unlikely that Maura would do this herself, as the front end and side would be more at risk for being struck...by a passing vehicle....however I did read one article where the car was allegedly sticking out partially obstructing the road, however, I've never been able to find the article since.....perhaps it was out 15 degrees on a slant with the back end protruding out into the road, but if the car would start and Maura was shivering, then why would she place the towel in the exhaust and then not be able to start her car..

Hope I'm making sense here...just cannot imagine for the life of me why someone would do this....I'd have tied the towel around the outside of the tailpipe if I was using this to warn on coming traffic that the car was stalled, or would not start? No one would stick a towel in the tailpipe. The towel would be wrote off, so to speak, and if it was stuffed in it would less likely be seen if you wrapped it around, or tied it on the tailpipe. I do not buy the thought that Maura did this herself...I of course do not know what Maura did, however, this thought would not occur to me and this is what I base my thoughts about Maura....just can make no sense that Maura did this herself....not while she was sitting in a car freezing and then unlikely able to start the car....

Now Maura might have done this at the school bus driver's suggestion, or when Maura was leaving the car, as she was not seen after the school bus driver left, the towel had to be placed before he arrived on the scene, or the school bus driver would have had to witness Maura placing the towel there...

Or are we to believe that the moment the school bus driver left, that Maura ran to her car grabbed the towel from her bag, stuffed it in the tailpipe and vanished out of sight. This witness, lives likely on the same side of the road where Maura's car was stuck in the snow bank....it seem pretty likely to me that he/she would have seen Maura do this....

Any comments Weeper about what the witness saw, did they see the towel prior to the school bus driver coming along, did they see Maura do this....did the witness see anyone putting anything in the tailpipe...?
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